@1big10incher "wait a minute ... so the chemical reaction ITSELF is the source of free will? (you just equated the cerebral cortex with the chemical reactions) " ^^^No. Chemical reactions are the process by which the brain operates and conducts it's functions. Stop stalling and answer the two questions, or concede that your points are failures.
"answer the two ...( 2 weeks ago by 1big10incher)
"answer the two questions" i did ... #1 YOU are separating the brain from chemical reactions,not me.#2 ALL of our thoughts and movements are the result of chemical reactions we have no control of.THAT is the "barrier".
Array( 2 weeks ago by Dhorpatan)
@1big10incher "i did ... #1 YOU are separating the brain from chemical reactions,not me." ^^^Fail. For the second time, I'm not separating the brain from the chemical reactions that reside therein.
"no.chemical ...( 2 weeks ago by 1big10incher)
"no.chemical reactions are the process by which the brain operates" YOU ARE A LIAR! first you said we cannot separate the cerebral cortex from the electrical reactions and then you say the electrical reactions is NOT the source of free will.THEN WHAT IS???
Array( 2 weeks ago by Dhorpatan)
@1big10incher "ALL of our thoughts and movements are the result of chemical reactions we have no control of.THAT is the "barrier"." ^^^Fail. Commits the fallacy of context dropping. You are dropping the context in which the brain and CNS carries out it's functions, from the overall structure itself. Continued..
Continued @ ...( 2 weeks ago by Dhorpatan)
Continued @1big10incher Without that fallacy, it is self evident that control of movement and thoughts stem from the brain. Specifically the cerebral cortex. Therefore, your points are defeated.
NONSENSE! in case ...( 2 weeks ago by 1big10incher)
NONSENSE! in case you`re wondering,you lost this debate days ago. if ALL of our thoughts and movements are the result of chemical reactions then we can have no influence over them.you sound like you are promoting some kind of free will that is rooted in chemical reactions.talk about an oxymoron.
Array( 2 weeks ago by Dhorpatan)
@1big10incher "YOU ARE A LIAR! first you said we cannot separate the cerebral cortex from the electrical reactions and then you say the electrical reactions is NOT the source of free will.THEN WHAT IS???" ^^^Fail. Repeat of your own misunderstanding. Chemical and electrical reactions and impulses, are the process by which the brain and CNS operate and conduct their functions. Again, the source of free will is the brain, specifically the cerebral cortex.
"the source of free ...( 2 weeks ago by 1big10incher)
"the source of free will is the brain" if the brain is the source of free will then the chemical reactions are the source of free will since (AS YOU CORRECTLY STATED) you CANNOT separate the two.hence,your source for free will is chemical reactions! EPIC FAIL!!!
Array( 2 weeks ago by Dhorpatan)
@1big10incher "if ALL of our thoughts and movements are the result of chemical reactions then we can have no influence over them.you sound like you are promoting some kind of free will that is rooted in chemical reactions.talk about an oxymoron." ^^^Fail. Repeat parroting of your own misunderstand. Commits the fallacy of context dropping.
Array( 2 weeks ago by Dhorpatan)
@1big10incher "if the brain is the source of free will then the chemical reactions are the source of free will since...." ^^^How are chemical reactions the source of free will, when they are simply the process by which the brain conducts it's functions??
"how are chemical ...( 2 weeks ago by 1big10incher)
"how are chemical reactions the source of free will,when they are simply the process by which the brain conducts it`s functions?" are you SEPARATING the two? i thought you said we cannot separate the brain from the electrical reactions of the brain.WHICH IS IT? with all due respect,your arguments are ridiculous.whatever free will you can muster out of a purely physical world will ITSELF be the result of chemical reactions.game over!
Array( 2 weeks ago by Dhorpatan)
@1big10incher "are you SEPARATING the two? i thought you said we cannot separate the brain from the electrical reactions of the brain.WHICH IS IT?" ^^^Fail. Repeat parroting of your own misunderstanding.
I think we need to ...( 1 week ago by turningpoint1970)
I think we need to hear more from you.
You are one of the ...( 1 week ago by Fidellio13)
You are one of the most fundamentally intelligent (If not the most) Atheist on YouTube. Really, you're great. I just found you and i'm probably going to watch each and every one of your videos twice.
OWN3D!!! WOW..... ...( 5 days ago by sk1llshot)
OWN3D!!! WOW..... ive watched every vid now... im going to watch them all again
Sounds a bit like ...( 2 days ago by deluxmodel)
Sounds a bit like the Princess Bride to me: "...But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine it from what I know of you. Are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemies? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you... Continued~
Array( 2 days ago by deluxmodel)
Part 2 "...But you must have known I was not a great fool; you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me" LOL!!
Array( 2 days ago by Dhorpatan)
@1big10incher I'm glad you gave up trying to prove your bogus point about chemical reactions and free will.
Dhor,you are not ...( 2 days ago by 1big10incher)
Dhor,you are not even worth arguing with.you`re an idiot! really.
Array( 2 days ago by Dhorpatan)
@1big10incher "Dhor,you are not even worth arguing with.you`re an idiot! really." ^^^Attacking my person, instead of addressing the points, is called an Ad Hominem attack, and is a sure sign of the weakness of your position.
Dhor,i apologize ...( 1 day ago by 1big10incher)
Dhor,i apologize for calling you an idiot (in spite of the fact that you actually are one) but i am just not in the mood for your amateurish arguments. almost every atheist i ever debated on this issue ended up admitting that free will is an illusion.i already showed you why this would have to be the case but you are too intellectually dishonest to admit to it.
Array( 1 day ago by Dhorpatan)
@1big10incher "i already showed you why this would have to be the case" ^^^You didn't show squat because your point was worthless. The likely reason every Atheist you ever debated on the issue, ended up admitting that free will is an illusion, was because they let you get away with fallacious argumentation, which, when done, makes it difficult to offer appropriuate counter refutation. The fallacy you committed, was the fallacy of context dropping.
This was very ...( 1 day ago by TuesdayPillow)
This was very well-presented. I have listened to it a few times so I can absorb it for future debates. Perhaps I shall just direct those with which I debate to this video to make it easy on everyone involved. :)
"wait a minute ... so the chemical reaction ITSELF is the source of free will? (you just equated the cerebral cortex with the chemical reactions) "
^^^No. Chemical reactions are the
process by which the brain operates
and conducts it's functions.
Stop stalling and answer the two
questions, or concede that your
points are failures.
i did ... #1 YOU are separating the brain from chemical reactions,not me.#2 ALL of our thoughts and movements are the result of chemical reactions we have no control of.THAT is the "barrier".
"i did ... #1 YOU are separating the brain from chemical reactions,not me."
^^^Fail. For the second time, I'm
not separating the brain from the
chemical reactions that reside therein.
YOU ARE A LIAR! first you said we cannot separate the cerebral cortex from the electrical reactions and then you say the electrical reactions is NOT the source of free will.THEN WHAT IS???
"ALL of our thoughts and movements are the result of chemical reactions we have no control of.THAT is the "barrier"."
^^^Fail. Commits the fallacy of
context dropping. You are dropping the
context in which the brain and CNS
carries out it's functions, from the
overall structure itself.
Continued..
Without that fallacy, it is self
evident that control of
movement and thoughts stem from the
brain. Specifically the cerebral
cortex.
Therefore, your points are defeated.
if ALL of our thoughts and movements are the result of chemical reactions then we can have no influence over them.you sound like you are promoting some kind of free will that is rooted in chemical reactions.talk about an oxymoron.
"YOU ARE A LIAR! first you said we cannot separate the cerebral cortex from the electrical reactions and then you say the electrical reactions is NOT the source of free will.THEN WHAT IS???"
^^^Fail. Repeat of your own misunderstanding.
Chemical and electrical reactions
and impulses, are the process by which
the brain and CNS operate and conduct
their functions.
Again, the source of free will
is the brain, specifically the cerebral cortex.
if the brain is the source of free will then the chemical reactions are the source of free will since (AS YOU CORRECTLY STATED) you CANNOT separate the two.hence,your source for free will is chemical reactions! EPIC FAIL!!!
"if ALL of our thoughts and movements are the
result of chemical reactions then we can have no influence over them.you sound like you are promoting some kind of free will that is rooted in chemical reactions.talk about an oxymoron."
^^^Fail. Repeat parroting of your
own misunderstand. Commits the fallacy
of context dropping.
"if the brain is the source of free will then the chemical reactions are the source of free will since...."
^^^How are chemical reactions the
source of free will, when they are simply
the process by which the brain conducts
it's functions??
are you SEPARATING the two? i thought you said we cannot separate the brain from the electrical reactions of the brain.WHICH IS IT?
with all due respect,your arguments are ridiculous.whatever free will you can muster out of a purely physical world will ITSELF be the result of chemical reactions.game over!
"are you SEPARATING the two? i thought you said we cannot separate the brain from the electrical reactions of the brain.WHICH IS IT?"
^^^Fail. Repeat parroting of your
own misunderstanding.
"...But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine it from what I know of you. Are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemies? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you... Continued~
"...But you must have known I was not a great fool; you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me"
LOL!!
I'm glad you gave up trying to
prove your bogus point about chemical
reactions and free will.
"Dhor,you are not even worth arguing with.you`re an idiot! really."
^^^Attacking my person, instead
of addressing the points, is called
an Ad Hominem attack, and is a sure
sign of the weakness of your position.
almost every atheist i ever debated on this issue ended up admitting that free will is an illusion.i already showed you why this would have to be the case but you are too intellectually dishonest to admit to it.
"i already showed you why this would have to be the case"
^^^You didn't show squat because your
point was worthless. The likely reason every Atheist you ever debated on the issue, ended
up admitting that free will is an illusion,
was because they let you get away with
fallacious argumentation, which, when done, makes it difficult to offer appropriuate
counter refutation. The fallacy you
committed, was the fallacy of context
dropping.